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[geniusdreams]

If you think of the idea of "having humanity"... or "being human"... that is actually about self-interest, but it gets confused for true-care. The opposite is "being inhuman" like a monster... Right now, I'm talking about the media's use of "being human" as a good thing, not people like me who get fed up with humans all the time and so use "human" as a bad word

If you think of an ant's nest... well if two ants fight with each other, the entire nest will suffer. But if the ants help each other... even sacrifice themselves for the hive... the entire nest does better. So the ants are genetically programmed to look after the whole. It is in their self-interest... even to die for the whole.

It's the same with humans.

the difference between self-interest and true-care... is that self-interest may give in 3 bad ways:

1) Gives things that actually make things worse, in order to "help".
2) Gives the useless things instead of the thing that was asked for and needed...
3) Gives good things to bad people who don't deserve it.

I'm sure you've experienced and seen a lot of that. THAT is self-interest at work, not true-care. And that neatly fits in with "programming". The self-interest has been programmed to give, but it doesn't care about getting it right or really helping.

True care only tries to give the right thing, and will refuse to give the wrong thing. And the only way to do that is with logic, to analyse the other person, and understand what it is that they need. To sort out contradictions...

If you look at my "5 levels of reality" theory... "information" is the 4th level of reality, and "logic" is the 5th level of reality. Well... "programming" is the same as "information". But logic is on the 5th. So true-care needs the 5th level to work. Logic is not the same as programming, thats all I'm saying. Its a whole entire higher level, with entirely different rules.

But self-interest can make humans give to each other... in the right or wrong way, with just programming, the 4th level, no need for logic.

People give, because they feel on some level, that it helps them too. It just "feels right", And they see that it works... they look at the times in their life that they were selfish and refused to give, and think "well... my life didn't go so well back then". And look at the times they shared and think "well, my life went a lot better then". And so they realise that being selfish acts against their self-interest. But its still self-interest... not true-care. That's "being human"... giving to each other, because our DNA, and our culture tells us to, out of self-interest.

I guess... if "being human" is about self-interest... then if you imagined a planet full of self-interested people, no "cruel people"... not even 1% sadism on that planet. The people on that planet would be "True humans"... there wouldn't be any war... what would be the point of it? And no environmental destruction again, what is the point?

Maybe if you think of "being human" in the positive sense, of talking about sharing with your fellow humans, then most humans are not being human, most humans are more like crazy monsters

Like ants who have deranged and broken programming because they have mutated, and only help other ants who harm the entire nest. And who are leading their nest into self-destruction.

[Dragondragon]

Yeah Humans tend to mix true-care with self interested care.

Many times I hear them calling other people "selfish" and "self centered" like it's a bad thing. They like to pretend that the things they're doing are not self-interested.

Actually, being totally selfish and self centered will be an improvement from their correct situation.


Also....


They think that caring for someone because it benefits you is the only form of caring..but we can't blame them since they don't have true care.


Also. I think that most people will agree with you that most humans in the world sometimes act like monsters. Because you can speak in their language now..cuz there's no true care envolved..only self interest and sadism.

The bigger problem is that they don't realize that the thing they're doing (those tiny things they sometimes tend to do out of sadism..like lying about someone and hurting him) IS CONNECTED to the things more evil people do like Hitler, in the sense that they're BOUTH evil and wrong, and it's just a question of what'sMORE Evil.

They think that killing millions of people and lying about a single person is not connected. And that's not true. If bouth actions are done because of sadism, than it's just a question of what more evil. But they're bouth evil and are similar (in the sense that they're wrong and negative).

They can't see the connection between lesser Evil and greater Evil and that's a shame, because if they did, most people will probably turn Pure self-interest.

[geniusdreams]