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geniusdreams Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: Innocence... |
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So I realised what was really bothering me recently!
It's about innocence.
Most people (cruel people or self-interested people) totally don't have any concept of innocence. They think they do, but they don't.
They might understand it in legal terms... such as "if he didn't steal that bottle, then he is innocent of that crime".
Great. But they don't understand innocence. How someone can be a pure innocent person. Just naturally, how every choice they make can be purely innocent... without any need to be taught how to behave or anything like that.
In fact, their concepts are so stupid, that a purely innocent person can be seen as not innocent, when he does something harmful...
For example, they might say an innocent person is not innocent when he fights back against evil people. Or an innocent person is not innocent when he does something he enjoys (like having sex I guess? lol). Or he's not innocent because he stepped on someone else's foot by accident, and the other guy got all angry about it and that innocent guy was't in the mood for apologising after that...
They expect innocent people to go around blindly feeding starving orphans in africa, wearing religious robes, and always talking "lofty" ideals.... not just living a normal life...
Being innocent is about listening to the truth. It's as simple as that. And not listening to the truth because someone forced you to, but because it FEELS RIGHT, because they don't want to be harmful to innocent people.
If you don't listen to the truth, how can you make sure you don't harm other innocent people? Blindly feeding starving african orphans doesn't mean you listen to the truth. What if those orphans happened to be violent people in general, from violent parents, and would later become criminals themselves? Do they need to be fed? What if that food goes to soldiers instead?
How can you know these things, without getting personally involved in the lives of those starving orphans, to know how good of a person each one is, how much help they really deserve? And thats not what aid workers do. They don't tell them "you are a bad female for having sex at 12 with some stupid violent thug". Thats getting "too involved"... but thats the sort of thing that makes a real difference, because its talking about THE TRUTH.
If you really need to be personally involved with someone to know enough of the truth about them, to help them in an innocent way... you might as well start with the people around you in your own country? Instead of just giving money to foreign nations...
But the problem is... that most people aren't innocent in relation to the people around them. So they want OTHER THINGS to help them look good.
"I wasn't good enough to my friends around me, so I'll make myself look better by feeding starving african orphans, the people around me won't notice the difference as they aren't innocent either!!"
Great.
Yeah, they don't see me as innocent, they CAN'T see me as innocent.
1) They don't have the concepts to see me as innocent.
2) They don't feel innocent themselves, and they expect everyone (me too) to be like them.
3) Even if they see me doing something innocent that they wouldn't do, they don't want to understand it. They either pretend I've been programmed to act "too nice" (not just being purely innocent from my heart), or refuse to understand what I've done, because it takes too much effort for them to understand, given that they don't have any concepts of innocents.
4) They aren't being innocent most of the time themselves, just talking about meaningless empty things, and so its very hard for one innocent person to help them in an innocent way if they aren't innocent themselves. So again, they don't give me a chance for my innocence to be seen.
5) The only real way for me to... be obviously innocent, actually... is with energy. Unfortunately, for that to work... I have to fight this "artificial limit to freedom"... this "negative energy field" I talk about a lot. Which isn't easy... and certainly I haven't been able to do it as much as I used to. But the occasions I was able to do it strongly enough, many people would be attracted to me in some way, react to me in some way... seeing how "Different" and "special" I am, for trying to raise my energy fields above that stupid artificial limit to freedom...
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Anyhow... so heres another important thing I've been realising about
innocence... People who are purely self-interested, not even cruel... create so much "Stuff". That is absolutely worthless! But they give it great value. It could be entertainment stuff, or just information. It has no "energy" in it. No "innocence" in it. But they act like its really important, and has real energy in it.
A good example for me, is so much music. So much music has so little energy, or meaning, or value in it. Most music is so empty. But people value it so much. Why? Because the music is SUPPOSED to have emotion in it. But its got fake emotion.
Its like people giving each other artificial "fruit juice", which is mostly colored sugar water, instead of the REAL THING! Which is full of so much natural richness...
Actually, what they are doing, is creating a group illusion. And sharing with each other illusions. The reality, is that they are getting companionship, and friendship from each other. But only on the basis of trading empty illusions. Just because they trade meaningless stuff... doesn't mean their interaction is meaningless.
Its like two people swapping 40 decks of pokemon cards... maybe a bit excessive and empty? But, if they do it so much... they'll get to know each other. And so they end up trading REAL friendship, in the process of trading those illusions.
Which is great for them. But it also LOCKS OUT people who care about the truth. They can't get into that system. It locks out innocent people.
Anyhow, the result is... they create so much worthless stuff... stuff that has no value.
Stuff that... needs to be destroyed. Because it can't fit into an innocent Universe. If the Universe is destined to become innocent, then all the worthless empty stuff that self-interested people have created, must be destroyed to fit into that innocent Universe.
OK... so now we got that out of the way... heres the 3rd thing I've been thinking of.
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The 3rd idea to do with innocence is...
well... a "female freeist", an innocent person... would feel different from a "male freeist"... when on Earth. Because of Earth's broken gender system.
If a male and female freeist were on their own natural planet, with their own people... they won't feel so different. But here on Earth they would in this way...
Basically, a female freeist would be thinking "all the females are pretending to BE LIKE ME.... pretending to be innocent! While being the opposite! Even trying to LOOK AND SOUND LIKE AN INNOCENT PERSON while being the opposite."
A female freeist would feel... very "covered up". She would feel "hidden", because of all the imposters pretending to be like her.
A male freeist would feel very different. He wouldn't look, or sound the same as the typical humans. Typical male humans are not supposed to be innocent. They are supposed to be like monsters, sometimes at least. Hairy cavemanly monsters who love fighting, either watching ugly MMA boxers or football or who knows what retarded things. Human males often pretend to be even more evil than they are, or at least openly express their evil side without hiding it like females do.
So a freeist male, who is innocent of course... wouldn't fit into that. He would look and sound very different!
A freeist female would maybe feel... that... because a freeist male looks and sounds different to typical human males... while she looks and sounds too similar to typical human females... that really its HER JOB to FIND HIM.
Its not his job to find her. Its her job to find him. After all, its easier to find something that sticks out? Certainly easier than finding something buried under a ton of fakes trying to look just like her. |
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geniusdreams Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Innocence... |
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Another thing....
I think... that self-interested people need to have their power over themselves, removed. At least where they are not innocent.
It's the only way I can see this thing adding up! Of making the Universe entirely innocent.
If there are always "powerful" self-interested people around, who simply don't care about the truth... who only care about themselves, it will always be possible for cruel people to lie to them, to defend their lies so fiercely that they will die for their lies.
A cruel person who is willing to die for his lies... and a powerful self-interested person hearing those lies... is a bad combination.
The self-interested person is too easy to manipulate, by sadism. And we end up with powerful people helping cruel people, just for lying! This means that cruel people can't be dealt with. They can't be forced to listen to the truth, they can't be punished for their lies, because there will always be some self-interested person who will defend them!
The only way we can stop cruel people from harming others, is by not allowing the existance of powerful people who don't care about the truth.
This basically means... what I said at the start. Self-interested people can't have power over themselves... at least where they are not innocent.
They... will have to be made to submit to those who are truely innocent. Freeists and angels mostly... To have their entire power structures of their societies rewritten, by freeists.
Of course, all of this is far off. Only a powerful group of freeist worlds could do that kind of thing. It's not anything one freeist can even do by himself.
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geniusdreams Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Innocence... |
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Another thing...
I guess it's true that self-interested people don't reply to the truth.
They don't care about it. So there isn't much point in trying to have a conversation with self-interested people, on honest things that are so deeply important. They just don't reply, because they don't care!
But I wonder...
even if they don't reply to the truth... can the truth still have another effect on them?
As long as they REMEMBER the WORDS... perhaps later on... those words could be listened to. Remembered... thought about again, at a later date. Or affect them in some way they didn't allow the first time around.
How to say words that they will not forget or alter? Thats the problem with people who don't listen. It's hard to make words stick in their head so it can bother them for a long time, because they actually change the words.
Its like they corrupt messages so quick, its corrupted before it is even stored in their brains properly.
Not as quick as with cruel people, but still...
Actually, that would be a good test! To ask them... what they remember of what I said. I'm not sure how much of the important things they remember. So I want to learn, about how much they tend to remember.
Of course, its a very hard thing to test them, seeing as they don't WANT to remember, and will avoid even getting into situations where I can ask them. But, its a thing I can look out for! |
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Dragondragon
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Innocence... |
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| geniusdreams wrote: | Another thing....
I think... that self-interested people need to have their power over themselves, removed. At least where they are not innocent.
It's the only way I can see this thing adding up! Of making the Universe entirely innocent.
If there are always "powerful" self-interested people around, who simply don't care about the truth... who only care about themselves, it will always be possible for cruel people to lie to them, to defend their lies so fiercely that they will die for their lies.
A cruel person who is willing to die for his lies... and a powerful self-interested person hearing those lies... is a bad combination.
The self-interested person is too easy to manipulate, by sadism. And we end up with powerful people helping cruel people, just for lying! This means that cruel people can't be dealt with. They can't be forced to listen to the truth, they can't be punished for their lies, because there will always be some self-interested person who will defend them!
The only way we can stop cruel people from harming others, is by not allowing the existance of powerful people who don't care about the truth.
This basically means... what I said at the start. Self-interested people can't have power over themselves... at least where they are not innocent.
They... will have to be made to submit to those who are truely innocent. Freeists and angels mostly... To have their entire power structures of their societies rewritten, by freeists.
Of course, all of this is far off. Only a powerful group of freeist worlds could do that kind of thing. It's not anything one freeist can even do by himself. |
I agree! Without purely self interested people, this planet would have no technology at all, and would be just a bunch of stupid and Evil animals that are easy to get rid of.
In many senses, the purely self interested people are making it hard to get rid of the cruel people MORE than the cruel ones themselves, by helping them gain power that couldn't have gain without them (they're too stupid to do it by themselves).
I also want to raise a reason that Humans are not Chimpanzees anymore and are on the 3rd level of Evolution to begin with is mainly because of purely self interested people! I believe that it is them who got to that stage first, and then helped the cruel people do the same.
Basically, purely self interested people can do really harmful things when there isn't anyone to check that they're not helping Evil people! |
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geniusdreams Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Innocence... |
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So...
I think the thing about self-interested people, is they don't care about WHO I AM... they only care about WHAT I CAN DO (for them).
That explains a lot of interactions between me and dumb girls I've met at clubs. They didn't care about who I am. Only what I can do.
Same with all the other self-interested people.
Its just annoying because females always pretend to be innocent and, me being innocent myself, that always draws me in, because innocent people want to be together! Stupid bitches.
I'll just remember next time I meet more females... the female's most central goal in appearance, is to seem innocent.
That explains why they promise they'll listen to me (because innocent people always listen), but always avoid listening to me (because they were self-interested people allowing themselves to be controlled in a world of cruel people). |
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